Zogby Poll
June 22nd, 2006 by LAFrom a strange Zogby poll I took today:
Which of the following Democratic candidates are your more likely to vote for president?Candidate A is the governor of a swing state in the Southwest. Candidate A was a congressman before he served as Ambassador to the UN and Secretary of Energy. He is considered to be a moderate in the party. If elected, Candidate A would be the first Hispanic President.
Candidate B is a three term Senator from a swing state in the Midwest. Candidate B is considered liberal, but a maverick in the party willing to take unpopular stances and to take positions against his party. Candidate B is best known for cosponsoring and passing a major campaign finance reform law in the Senate.
Candidate C is a two term Senator and former two-term governor of a Republican state in the Midwest. During his term as governor, he cut taxes, created jobs and created a scholarship program for low-income students. In the Senate Candidate C has been a moderate and not considered to be too partisan.
Candidate D was a former four-star general and NATO supreme commander during the Clinton Administration. He was first in his class at West Point, a Rhodes Scholar, is a decorated Vietnam Veteran, and is a national security expert. He is a successful businessman leading the effort to reduce our dependence on oil. Is a moderate on domestic policy issues and is from the South.
Candidate E is a decorated Vietnam War veteran who is generally considered a liberal. He is regarded as articulate on a wide range of issues. He supported the war in Iraq, but is now critical of how the Bush administration is handling the aftermath. He has been a district attorney, a lieutenant governor, and has been a United States senator from a northeastern state for 20 years.
Candidate F is a former one-term senator from a southern state and former vice presidential nominee. Before entering politics he was a medical malpractice attorney. He is considered a populist candidate and since leaving office has focused his time addressing poverty and inequities in America.
Candidate G is the former one term governor of a southern state. While he was governor, Candidate G’s state was rated as the best managed in the country and he was ranked as one of the five best governors by Time magazine. Candidate G left office with high approval ratings and bipartisan support.
Candidate H is a six term Senator from a Northeastern state. In the Senate Candidate H has focused on increasing access to college and cracking down on crime, which includes authoring the Violence Against Women Act. Candidate H is also known as one of the Senate’s foremost experts on foreign policy. Candidate H briefly ran for president in 1988, but a plagiarism controversy forced him to withdraw.
Candidate I is a senator from a Northeastern state. Since being elected to the Senate, Candidate I has kept a low profile and often reached out across the aisle, despite being a big name and polarizing figure before entering elective office. If elected Candidate I would be the first Female President.
Candidate J was a two-term governor from a swing state in the Midwest. As governor he has cracked down on sex offenders and the production of methamphetamines. Candidate J is also a staunch opponent of the death penalty. As governor he served on national organizations dedicated to alternative fuels, agriculture and biotechnology. He is also the chair of a group of moderate Democrats.
Candidate K is a former two-term Senator from a small state in the West. Before entering the Senate he served in the Army and his state’s legislature. In the Senate he was a prominent opponent of the Vietnam War and through the use of the filibuster was able to force the end of the draft. Since leaving the Senate Candidate K has promoted direct democracy though nationwide ballot initiatives and has been an opponent of the war in Iraq.
I wonder who they’re talking about?
June 22nd, 2006 at 10:51 pm
I’d go with candidate B, because it’s Feingold. That’s the trouble with polls like this: they don’t tell you anything, because most people’s perception of what facts are significant about a candidate are determined by their impression of the candidate.
For example, when David Duke ran for the state senate in Louisiana, his opponent thought he’d win easily. They’d put focus groups together and ask if they’d ever vote for a former member of the American Nazi party, or if they’d vote for a candidate who’d been convicted of tax evasion.
But when they asked people whether they’d vote against David Duke if they knew of his conviction, many became angry and said that the media was picking on Duke.
June 23rd, 2006 at 9:12 am
I knew B was Feingold and I read a little of C (Evan Bayh) and D (Wes Clark) and didn’t read any of the rest of them. I’m voting for Feingold so why bother to go on?
June 23rd, 2006 at 9:13 am
And Bill Richardson? No way.
June 23rd, 2006 at 9:24 am
C is Evan Bayh of Indiana. How do I know? I worked with that low income scholarship program he started. I would vote for him!
June 23rd, 2006 at 10:00 am
It’s time to vote again? My head hurts.
But I still like Feingold. Go with the gold…
June 23rd, 2006 at 10:42 am
I just hope my Democratic Senator doesn’t become embroiled in some kind of bribery scandal. I’d love for him to use the slogan, “You just can’t buy Bayh!”
June 23rd, 2006 at 11:39 am
Bayh votes…
June 23rd, 2006 at 1:53 pm
Speaking of polls, surveys and such, can anyone tell me what the top 2 cable news shows are? The bottom 2? The most trusted source of news between, say,
CBS, ABC and Fox News?
Just curious…
June 23rd, 2006 at 2:00 pm
Candidate A - Bill Richardson
Candidate B - Russ Feingold
Candidate C - Evan Bayh
Candidate D - Wes Clark
Candidate E - John Kerry
Candidate F - Jonathan Edwards
Candidate G - Mark Warner (my pick, but then I live in Virginia)
Candidate H - Joseph Biden
Candidate I - Hilary Clinton, that last sentence was the give away
Candidate J - ???
Candidate K - ???
June 23rd, 2006 at 9:55 pm
J–Tom Vilsack
K– Mike Gravel
June 23rd, 2006 at 9:56 pm
BRT–
ABC and CBS both kick Fox’s ass in the ratings. And outside the 39%ers, they’re far more trusted than Fox.
June 24th, 2006 at 5:09 pm
Uh, huh.
I was talking about cable news gordo, and four of the top 5 spots are held by Fox News with the top two, O’Reilly and Hannity/Combs, pulling close to 4 million viewers. The scrub ass bottom-just ahead of the Jack Lelane Magic Juicer commercials? Hard Head and Keith Olbermunch have a mortal lock on the cellar with a combined audience of about 1/8 th that of the top two.
The New York Times is losing subscribers faster than fleas jumping off a drowning dog with their treacherous “public interest” exposure of this country’s vital security secrets, the ACLU is a laughing stock of useless “I know I seen a cross here somewhere” ferrets that can’t even get Americans worked up with their hysterical buck shilling claims that George Bush is watching them pee and Dick Cheney is monitoring their piggy banks. Air Head America counts listeners in most major markets on their fingers and toes and held a victory celebration this week when they crept up to 9th place in the 3:30 a.m. time slot in Tallulah Falls, Alabama.
Cut and run shills John Kewwy, Abscam Jack Murtha, Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan couldn’t fill the lunch room in Moosejaw Elementary School if they held a Tupperware party and gave away free popcorn, Ann Coulter’s “Godless Liberals” is still number one and kicking bat ass all over the country.
And now this…
“The Fox News Channel is the most trusted news source in America, according to a new poll released by the BBC and Reuters that surveyed 10,000 news consumers around the world.
Asked which news source they most trusted, 11 percent of Americans named Fox News - more than any other news source in the U.S.
Fox News led the broadcast networks by substantial margins, with ABC coming in at 4 percent, NBC - 4 percent and CBS - 3 percent.”
How high’s the water, Mama?!!
June 24th, 2006 at 5:16 pm
Makes you wonder who the 3%’s are?
June 24th, 2006 at 6:52 pm
Crickets, aileron.
Crickets…..
June 24th, 2006 at 6:53 pm
Now I know BRT is lying, because they kicked Air America off the radio in Tallulah Falls after the owner of the local hardware store called the station manager and told him he was pulling his advertising from the local high school football broadcasts if he didn’t “get that Godless commie pinko faggot trash off the air”…
June 24th, 2006 at 9:19 pm
BRT–
I’d be willing to bet that a substantial number of the 89% who didn’t name Fox “most trusted” would have named them “least trusted.”
And you really ought to be ashamed for your continued smears of John Murtha, who refused to take a bribe during the abscam sting.
Fox leads the cable news pack? Whatever. I’m sure you’d do well in a footrace for people over 75. That wouldn’t mean that you’re a fast runner.
June 25th, 2006 at 12:15 am
J would be Vilsack. Not sure about K at all. Sounds like Mike Gravel, a former Alaska Senator. Had to look it up.
June 25th, 2006 at 12:18 am
Update, Gravel IS running I see, but it doesn’t seem to be very serious. More like “I’m running to focus the race on a pet issue” kinda thing. Looks like a serious guy, could ben a contender in the day maybe.
June 25th, 2006 at 2:30 pm
You really need to read up and come to grips with the size, and the influence, of the cable news market, gordo.
I’m including a blue thingy to help you along but I thought these points were significant..
“The Big Picture
From a distance, people may think 2004 must have been a year of ascendancy for cable news. In September, Fox News earned enormous publicity for attracting more viewers during the last two nights of the Republican convention than any other source, including the broadcast networks. With the exception of the first nights of the Gulf War in 1991, no one could recall another moment when a cable news channel had bettered a broadcast network news program in live head-to-head coverage of a breaking news event. Was it a watershed? Perhaps….”
Did you know, for example, that cable news DOMINATES the networks in the 18-49 year old demographic and that it’s only a few percentage points behind in the 50-64 age group?
I don’t know what that says to you but to most people it says that network news, like major newspapers, is continuing to slip-for the very same “detatched from their viewers and subscribers” reason and cable news networks like, er, FOX news are beginning to kick network ass.
But you’re right about one thing. Network news still leads in the 65 plus age group. You know- fast for the age group but really not very fast at all considering that the buying and voting power in this country rests largely in the 18-64 year age group.
Thingy….
http://www.stateofthenewsmedia.org/2005/narrative_cabletv_audience.asp?cat=3&media=5
Bon appetit!
June 26th, 2006 at 2:53 am
BRT–
Every night, CBS, ABC, and NBC news programs get more than 5 million viewers each. In other words, each network gets more news viewers than all of cable TV combined. Cable TV news is dominating two things: jack, and shit.
June 26th, 2006 at 6:51 am
THREE things, gordo. Jack, shit, and network news..
From the Pew Reseach Center…
“The overall audience for cable TV news exceeds that for network television news by a narrow margin: 38% of Americans say they regularly watch cable news channels, compared with 34% who regularly watch the nightly news on one of the three major broadcast networks.
In April 2002, the two audiences were nearly identical in size 33% for cable news, 32% for network news. So while the nearly decade-long slide in network news viewership may have subsided, the networks now risk being eclipsed by their cable competitors….
The thingamabobble is here…
http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?PageID=834
June 27th, 2006 at 1:21 am
BRT–
I was going by the Nielsens, using an apples-to-apples comparison of evening news broadcasts.
Pew asked people which news stations they watch, without regard to what time they watch. The comparison you’re using is ALL cable news broadcasts vs. the 3 networks’ evening news broadcasts.
To be fair, though, you’d have to throw in PBS and shows like 60 minutes and Meet the Press. Do that, and broadcast news is the clear winner. I used to the comparison of network evening news vs. cable evening news to show that when people are given a choice, they tend to tune out Fox News.
June 27th, 2006 at 5:16 am
By the time the evening news rolls around most people have already seen most or all of the stories several times on cable-mostly Fox.
I watch network news myself, but mainly for laughs and to catch the spin.
Mark my words gordo, the main stream media is headed down the tubes. All you have to do is look at the demographics of cable news viewers vs. network, the loss of subscribers by the major newspapers and the fact that ABC, CBS and NBC are the LEAST trusted by viewers.
When you add in the “treasonous arrogance” factor-The New York Slimes’ disclosure of the financial transactions surveillance program put into place after 9/11 and with the urging of the 9/11 commission-you’re seeing WD 40 applied to the skids.
The media revolution has been underway for some time now and I hope I’m around long enough to see the bastards who would put their own anti-administration, transparently mercenary, peer recognition lust ahead of the best interests of the American people choke on their own self serving vomit…
June 27th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
Of course there is no spin on Fox and only the best interests of the American people are served there - always.
June 27th, 2006 at 3:14 pm
I think you have a typo there LA… shouldn’t it read
“only the best interests of the American people are severed there - always.”
~
June 27th, 2006 at 4:05 pm
Not at all sgo, LA’s finally beginning to get it.
As for you and Sirk, I wouldn’t fart around too long. The train’s leaving
the station…
June 27th, 2006 at 6:34 pm
I didn’t even post in that thread you moron.
June 27th, 2006 at 6:38 pm
You didn’t have to Sirkie. Your views are well known-to say the least.
Overly introduced may be a better term.. :+)
June 27th, 2006 at 9:23 pm
The New York Times:
We report, BRT calls it treason.
BRT, I think you’d be happier if you moved to China. You’d never have to worry about having your blood pressure shoot up because the press reavealed what your government was doing, and all the commentators would be telling you how wonderful your leader was.
But I guess you already get that if you’re a Fox viewer, and you get a “minute of hate” delivered twice every hour as a bonus. So maybe you’re better off here.